Johannes Sundberg - The Secret Science of Squaring - FAQ

W. D. Gann’s Lost System of Astro-Geometric Market Forecasting



...revealing Gann's best hidden secrets on how to Square Price and Time

By Johannes Sundberg

 

Introduction

We have found that many of the most common questions regarding this course are asked frequently by different people. Below we have compiled a list of answers to those questions to help clarify the intent and approach to the course.

We will continue to add to this section as more questions arise. If there is a specific question you have which you do not see answered here, please contact us and we will ask Johannes to answer it.

General Questions

[Johannes Sundberg] Both!

[Johannes Sundberg] Yes, the laws and principles are universal. I want however to urge you treat the application on Cryptocurrencies very carefully as their behavior is not the same as other freely traded assets. 

[Johannes Sundberg] : Yes, there several examples in the book where the same principle is shown as applied on any time frame from a 1-minute chart up to a monthly chart that spans over several decades. However, signals generated from more significant turning points are going to have more powerful projections due to more significant planetary aspects having been present at the more important turning point. Shorter term turning points are not going to be as strong as major turning points. So yes, it can be used for taking longer term positions aside from being limited to short term swings or trades.

[Johannes Sundberg] It depends, there are a ton of different methods and techniques in the book. There are some smart shortcut tools that you can accomplish with just a few mouse clicks in a free for all charting app. There are other methods that need a bit more calculation, but the math is not rocket science, it is on an elementary school level. Remember, Gann had no computer, not even a handheld calculator in his day! If you put in the formulas in an Excel spreadsheet, the process is very quick.

[Johannes Sundberg] I am 100 % convinced that these methods were used by Gann. I am sure that he had more tools than this in his toolbox, but these strategies are nevertheless a standalone profitable system. The beauty of this method is that it is quite simple to understand and apply, and it is true Gann. Everyone who has read his courses and books will react: "Oh, that is what he meant! Could it really be that easy?" Gann hid what he really meant in plain sight. I think this understanding will advance many much further along in their Gann studies while also providing a clean and straight-forward trading strategy that they can profit from.

Trading Related Questions

[ICE] This is a nice thing! The author presents methods of how to judge the quality of a trade setup and let you sort out the good ones from the bad. When you follow this guidance, the accuracy is 80%+. The important thing that Sundberg stresses is that you get a trade setup where the potential reward is many times larger than the potential loss if the stop-loss is hit. This is only possible with Gann methods that let you calculate the correct turning point in both time and price with high accuracy. The relationship between reward and risk is even more important than the accuracy even if the outcome is, of course, dependent on all three. 

[Johannes Sundberg] That is a very good question with no obvious answer as there are so many different techniques in the book. I encourage the reader to go through them all and stick with those that suit their personality. That being said, if we are strict and pick those situations where time and price match, I would say that the success rate is at least 80 %.

The very last chart in the book has 9 projections, 8 worked, 1 was dubious. The real strength of the methods is the possibility to identify trading setups with a high probability of success, a stop-loss level at a minimum distance and a precise target price. The best trades are those where the target price is at a distance that is many multiples of the stop-loss distance. The methods let you identify those cases. That combination is very powerful and results in high risk/reward trades with a strong positive expectancy. 

[Johannes Sundberg] The trading approach presented is Position Trading, meaning the identification of significant high probability turning points, with a minimum 1:3 risk:reward ratio, taking place within a time frame of several days to several weeks generally, though some trades may run for many months when a Major turning point is identified, and a significant trend begins.

So, unlike many of our most popular courses, Pendulum Motion or Selene’s Chariot, our primary intention here is not necessarily Swing Trading, reversing position from short to long at each reversal point, but in identifying individual Position Trades to be taken on shorter- or longer-term time frames, using either options or trading underlying positions, per one’s individual trading style. Tools from PM or SC above can easily be used to navigate the mechanics of these trades as with any trade, but the setups will be fully identified within this process alone.

[ICE] Sundberg is a professional analyst and trader and has spent his entire career of over 25 years as a professional trader and manager of multiple asset classes at places ranging from banks to professional investment companies to insurance groups. Please see the Author Biography and the Author Introduction for details.

Software Related Questions

[Johannes Sundberg] No, not necessarily, but it will speed up the process. The author has used Optuma with the Gann and Astro add-ons, and Cycletimer Software, but you can do it with a physical ephemeris or an Excel spreadsheet. If you put the formulas in an Excel spreadsheet, the process becomes very quick and easy.

[Johannes Sundberg] No, no special software is required but some kind of astro software would probably assist in projecting the cycles unless you want to use a physical Ephemeris. MS Excel will do. I do most of my calculations in MS Excel. I´ve used Optuma and Cycletimer when writing the book in order to provide you with illustrative charts.

[Johannes Sundberg] I have already discussed with ICE developing a package of tools inWave59using their programmer, and they are going to get this process moving right away. As such, we hope to have an entirely new set of tools to quickly and easily apply various forms of these tools in Wave59 within a few months.

[Johannes Sundberg] We have also discussed building some tools in Optuma. Optuma is not so easy as they do not have a readily accessible programming language, and there are no programmers who are familiar with using their system other than their own techs, who at one point became overly costly to engage. The Astro package of Optuma has some useful tools for ephemeris use, but it only contains ephemeris information for individual planets, not for synodic pairs and others such required planetary calculations, so something further will be needed to be programmed to make it fully functional as a tool. ICE will look into this further as we have time and interst.

[ICE] We are beginning to look into having more useful tools built on this new and inexpensive platform used by millions of people. We have some experimentation happening with their programming language and may develop some individual stand-alone tools there that specifically project particularly types of trade setups. All of this is new and experimental, but we are exploring these new avenues.

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WHAT OUR TRADERS SAY…

Lorrie has a profound gift of seeing patterns and of perceiving the underlying order within whatever subject she directs her attention towards. Additionally, she has the gift of perceiving not only what is truly being said, but more importantly, what is not. She has taken on the works of W. D. Gann and Dr. Jerome Baumring in a total immersion. Her tenacity, will, and energy have been the sails, the current, and the wind of her voyage through the illusory and sometimes rocky waters of W. D. Gann.

Kenneth Macht

Alex has shared a tremendous amount of knowledge invaluable to Gann students and traders.  It is apparent that Alex has studied market behaviour with a great deal of enthusiasm for many years, and given considerable thought to distilling the essence of past and current masters to come up with his own unique theory about how it all fits together around the golden mean.  His generosity in sharing his insights is only matched by the number of pages in this insightful volume!

I've covered a lot of material in many years of research, but never have I come across insights which more clearly point to an underlying mathematical structure to price markets which become discernible through proper scaling.  Alex's scaling methods and insights are the best I've come across, particularly his angle-based approach.  I'm sure that any serious student of Gann would be impressed with the unique insights generously shared by Alex and would find return for their investment in the scaling methodology alone.

Gerald Jaworski VIC Australia, Tool Designer, Programmer & Researcher

When I was able to get an early copy of Alex’s 3rd book ‘Music of the Spheres’ I was stunned by the amount and quality of the information he provides. Alex ties together astronomy, music, and correct scaling to provide a glimpse inside the market’s true structure. He clarifies the work W D Gann did a hundred years ago and then brings that work into the modern world where we can adjust scales and track planets with a click of a mouse button.

Mr. Straker is also a gifted and willing mentor if someone wishes to accelerate their learning curve with some one to one work with him.

I have read many books in 30 years of market study and was fortunate to be able to spend hours looking over the W. D. Gann archives in Nikki Jones' possession. I believe Alexander Straker has written material that will go down in history as the truly definitive work on understanding W D Gann. He also has shown how the original Gann methods can be expressed in greater detail with the use of computer chart programs.

Ken Gerber Lambert-Gann Educators, Creator of Natural Squares Calculator

Lorrie has a profound gift of seeing patterns and of perceiving the underlying order within whatever subject she directs her attention towards. Additionally, she has the gift of perceiving not only what is truly being said, but more importantly, what is not. She has taken on the works of W. D. Gann and Dr. Jerome Baumring in a total immersion. Her tenacity, will, and energy have been the sails, the current, and the wind of her voyage through the illusory and sometimes rocky waters of W. D. Gann.

Kenneth Macht

Alex has shared a tremendous amount of knowledge invaluable to Gann students and traders.  It is apparent that Alex has studied market behaviour with a great deal of enthusiasm for many years, and given considerable thought to distilling the essence of past and current masters to come up with his own unique theory about how it all fits together around the golden mean.  His generosity in sharing his insights is only matched by the number of pages in this insightful volume!

I've covered a lot of material in many years of research, but never have I come across insights which more clearly point to an underlying mathematical structure to price markets which become discernible through proper scaling.  Alex's scaling methods and insights are the best I've come across, particularly his angle-based approach.  I'm sure that any serious student of Gann would be impressed with the unique insights generously shared by Alex and would find return for their investment in the scaling methodology alone.

Gerald Jaworski VIC Australia, Tool Designer, Programmer & Researcher

When I was able to get an early copy of Alex’s 3rd book ‘Music of the Spheres’ I was stunned by the amount and quality of the information he provides. Alex ties together astronomy, music, and correct scaling to provide a glimpse inside the market’s true structure. He clarifies the work W D Gann did a hundred years ago and then brings that work into the modern world where we can adjust scales and track planets with a click of a mouse button.

Mr. Straker is also a gifted and willing mentor if someone wishes to accelerate their learning curve with some one to one work with him.

I have read many books in 30 years of market study and was fortunate to be able to spend hours looking over the W. D. Gann archives in Nikki Jones' possession. I believe Alexander Straker has written material that will go down in history as the truly definitive work on understanding W D Gann. He also has shown how the original Gann methods can be expressed in greater detail with the use of computer chart programs.

Ken Gerber Lambert-Gann Educators, Creator of Natural Squares Calculator

Lorrie has a profound gift of seeing patterns and of perceiving the underlying order within whatever subject she directs her attention towards. Additionally, she has the gift of perceiving not only what is truly being said, but more importantly, what is not. She has taken on the works of W. D. Gann and Dr. Jerome Baumring in a total immersion. Her tenacity, will, and energy have been the sails, the current, and the wind of her voyage through the illusory and sometimes rocky waters of W. D. Gann.

Kenneth Macht

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